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E-junkie
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My subscriptions payments have dropped suddenly since 27th.  For example I had more than 70 payments due on 28th, I've got 14!
 
That can't be right!! Is anyone else facing the same issue?
 
 


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12-30-2007 06:47 PM  
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yuzairy
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Similar user reported this problem at this thread:
http://www.pdncommunity.com/pdn/board/message?board.id=basicpayments&message.id=17016

I watch my cashflow like a hawk and notice that some subscriptions did not comes in starting on 28 Dec 07.

The strange this is, some went through, some didn't.

I emailed Paypal (from within my account) and got this reply:

Do you mean that you have not received some subscription payment you
should have?
 According to your issue, there are a lot of reasons can cause this
problem. May be your buyer has cancelled the subsription or there is
something wrong with the buyer's funding source. Or it is due to the
design of your website .
 I suggest you to contact the buyers to identify the exact problem. If
they have not cancelled it or have no problem with the funding source,
please contact us again.
I emailed them back saying this:

The due dates on the subscription IDs sent earlier are obtained
directly from my Paypal account. There is no recent changes to my
website nor the shopping cart for the past 30 days. So I don't think
it's the problem.

When I do a search in my Paypal account, all these subscriptions are
STILL ACTIVE yet their next payment due date had already past.

In addition, these are not new subscribers. They had at least made 2
payments in the past with some of them had already made 4 payments.

Normally if there's a problem in the buyer funding source, Paypal will
notify me regarding a failed subscription payment and will retry 3
times before canceling them. But for these subscriptions, no attempt
has been made.

For the records, here are the problematic subscriptions as of at time
of writing:

<subscription numbers deleted for privacy reasons>

And got another reply from another rep:

Do you wan to know why the recent monthly fees of subscription were not
charged from some of your customer by your checking the status of the 9
order being active?

Due to the special order method of subscription, I am very sorry we can
not locate the reason of your problem only based on the clues you
offered, and we also need the information from your customer sides.
Could you kindly ask these customers to contact us regarding it? I think
it will be helpful for us to clarify this issue.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused you.

If you need any other further assistance, please do not hesitate to
contact us.
I've already given them the list of subscription IDs and I can't believe they say they can't check it. The subscription ID numbers are unique for a reason, don't you think?

And to ask my customers to contact Paypal is the last thing I want to do. Why bother them (especially during the holidays) if this is the problem caused by Paypal in the first place?

I'm crossing my fingers hoping that the subscriptions will be processed asap.


Message Edited by yuzairy on 12-30-2007 11:12 PM
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12-30-2007 10:53 PM  
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E-junkie
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I guess this is just another version of PayPal's subscription issue which happened earlier this year

 


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12-31-2007 04:55 AM  
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adriano
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Does anyone know if Paypal are fixing this?
Has Paypal made any comments on the problem at all?
I miss about 1000 payments now since friday, have only received a few hundred.
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12-31-2007 05:51 AM  
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InDigital
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I'm on the phone with PayPal again this morning, and still the people answering the phone are acting like this is news and they know nothing about it.
 
Have you guys all submitted support tickets?
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12-31-2007 06:28 AM  
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adriano
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I just made a ticket now. Was hoping problem would be fixed by the weekend, but still nothing happens.
This is really bad. At lease you would think Paypal would make an official comment about it. But NOTHING!
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12-31-2007 06:51 AM  
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TroyC
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I too am having the same issue, and came to the developer forum to see if others were. Since Dec 28, my recurring subscriptions are NOT working. My users are not seeing their accounts debited for their subscription amount, we are not seeing payments, and their subscriptions have *NOT* been cancelled in any way.

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12-31-2007 07:46 AM  
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schedeler
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We've been contacting PayPal every way possible for nearly two weeks about this problem, and every time we get a different runaround from them. On two occasions they have admitted that this is a known problem, but they will not provide any time frame of when the problem will be fixed.
 
Can anyone recommend an alternative provider of subscription payment services?
 
Update: From a little Google research, this is not the first time the subscription payment services of PayPal have failed.
 


Message Edited by schedeler on 12-31-2007 10:03 AM
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12-31-2007 07:47 AM  
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Same issue here.
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12-31-2007 08:11 AM  
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5buckguy
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Same issue here, I normally get about 15 payments a day, I got 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday, and 0 today.
 
This has happened before, they seem to do upgrades just before going away for a weekend or holiday or something, that I don't understand. 
 
Hopefully this outage won't last as long as the last one.  One good thing, the income will be postponed until the 2008 tax year, so that's a positive.


Message Edited by 5buckguy on 12-31-2007 11:27 AM
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12-31-2007 08:26 AM  
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